Whenever those pain in the ass conscientious patriotic Americans raise their little hands and suggest that maybe W’s spying program(s) mat not be completely legal or may be used in a manner that is not completely ethical, they’re immediately accused of being paranoid. Josh Marshall has a little fun with that today. American may have be paranoid or not, but many of us seem to be developing an incurable case of eye rolling in utter disbelief syndrome as we get our weekly dose of politburo doublethink from either the Whitehouse or some jelly spined Congressional conservative, Bush agrees to have domestic eavesdropping program reviewed
By having the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court conduct the review instead of a regular federal court, the Bush administration would ensure the secrecy of details of the highly classified program. The administration has argued that making details of the program public would compromise national security.
(Note: Why this reporter thinks the “details” of the program will be made public if there is legislative or judicial oversight seems to be an unfounded bit of editorializing) Who’s paranoid here? Those of you that think the president should trust the senate, the house, the FISA courts, the Department of Justice and the SCOTUS or Bush who thinks that no one can be trusted except Bush. Bush does realize, unless he knows something that we don’t, that president is not a lifetime appointment. No guarantee of course, but it is likely that the nest president will have a little more faith and trust in the institutions and laws that constitute our government.
Lee Tien, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, a civil liberties group that’s suing AT&T over its cooperation with the NSA program, called the bill “terrible” in part because it provides no opportunity for outside attorneys to contest the program’s legality before FISA court.
“This bill says nothing about how any outsider or the folks that we represent would have any kind of a voice in this,” he said. “It’s almost alien to the concept of judicial review in this country.”
I’m not sure how much money FISA court judges make or Supreme Court judges, but considering the bottomless black-hole otherwise known as the Conservative Plan to Saddle Our Children with an Off the Richter Scale National Debt, maybe this was just a move to save money, Bush Blocked Justice Department Investigation
Gonzales was questioned by Specter in light of a May 27 story in National Journal that reported that the OPR (Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility), investigation was quashed because of the refusal to allow investigators security clearances. Senior Justice Department officials told National Journal then that the investigators were seeking only information and documents relating to the National Security Agency’s surveillance program that were already in the Justice Department’s possession.
A senior Justice official said that the refusal to grant the clearances was “unprecedented” and questioned whether the clearances were denied because investigators might find “misconduct by those who were attempting to defeat” the probe from being conducted. The official made the comments without knowing that Bush had made the decision to refuse the clearances.
(Parentheses mine). This administartion’s legacy will be doing things previously unheard of in this democracy, that Bush shut down the OPR investigation was “unprecedented” is actually just par for the course. No wonder the temptation to think that the administration is covering up something. They are hiding something, they admit they are. Is this president or any president enabled by current law to act without any constraints on power. Are they entitled to hide programs to the degree that the most esteemed members of our elected bodies and the courts can’t have the smallest little peak at the details. You’ll just have to trust George and those freedom fries in suits otherwise known as conservative legislators. Let me check the scorecard, Bush versus democracy: Bush is not obligated to uphold legislation passed by Congress, if Bush thinks a law is unconstitutional he feels that he is under no obligation to file a brief with the Supreme Court challenging that law – he can just ignore it, he can amend any law passed by Congress with a signing statement, Bush can stop any investigation into presidential wrong doing simply by sighting national security concerns, he can declassify anything he wants and leak it on Tuesday and on Wednesday can reclassify same and call those that leak it danger to national security. Excuse me for playing the paranoid definition card, “Describing an individual affected with paranoia and presents such personality traits as extreme sensitivity to rejection, suspiciousness, hostility and self-importance.” Bush and conservatives are certainly sensitive to rejection since the new definition of sedition is any opinion that is contrary to what has been written in the Holy Book of Conservative Collectivism. Bush and conservative pundits can’t get though a day without hostility. Hostility is their molotov cocktail shaken not stirred. Bush’s whole governing style is built on self-importance; self and movement always takes precedence over the good of the republic.
I’va frequently linked to Glenn Greenwald at Unclaimed Territory who has rightly been hailed as a hero of the netroots. He has the combination of writing skills, intellectual gifts, and insights that inspire many of us and so of course that was bound to make him a prime target of the right-wing fringe. Poorman has a small salute, Keep it up
Glenn Greenwald – like David Neiwert – spends a lot of his time cataloging, recording, and referencing the extremist, often eliminationist rhetoric which has become the standard form of “debate” in the modern right-wing media. This is exhausting, thankless work – I tried, I tired – which he undertakes with admirable patience, and (what I personally consider a completely unnecessary) civility.
I’ve done a few posts on the rightie fringe and it just gets boring. Serious fact checking requires time and they will just ignore inconvenient facts anyway. The fall back rationales are tiresome versions of Bill Clinton did it first or whatever twisted nonsense they can dream up. Satire doesn’t work all that well either, considering the Bush presidency you can understand why conservatives don’t really comprehend satire. The whole nose-rope meme started on right-wing sites and one blogger turned it around on them, what is probably sincere outrage on the right has ensued. Yet they don’t, for the most part see how depraved their original meme is or how effective the satire is. Here’s some background for those that may have missed it, Media pounce on “screeching,” “frothing [liberal] bloggers” — while waving on conservatives who advocate … murder
Misha of The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler on the Supreme Court: “Five ropes, five robes, five trees. Some assembly required.” [7/11/06] – ( a Note here. He has replied that the left doesn’t get hyperbole. The thing is that his whole post is pretty over the top. He sees Islamic extremism as the most dangerous threat that has ever faced America. Which means he thinks that the threat of worldwide nuclear annihilation during the Cold War was just a piffle. Since the guy writes in nothing but hyperbole it is safe to say that the entirety of his opinion is not to be taken seriously, it is all just hyberpole)
BC of The Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler on John Kerry: “Rope. Tree. Justice. The only three things that Qerry [sic] deserves for his ‘service’.” [10/28/04]
Dean Esmay on New York Times reporters: “Exposing such a secret program is not whistle-blowing — it is high treason. When I say ‘treason’ I don’t mean it in an insulting or hyperbolic way. I mean in a literal way: we need to find these 21st century Julius Rosenbergs, these modern day reincarnations of Alger Hiss, put them on trial before a jury of their peers, with defense counsel. When they are found guilty, we should then hang them by the neck until the are dead, dead, dead.” [12/18/05] ( Again the sweeping elimnationism – It has not been proven to this day that Ethel Rosenberg was ever involved with epionage, her death sentence was a tragic travesty of justice; not to mention equating the NYT story on administration wrong doing to espionage)
Megan McCardle (who uses the pseudonym Jane Galt) on anti-war demonstrators in New York City: “I think some in New York are going to laugh even harder when they try to unleash some civil disobedience, Lenin style, and some New Yorker who understands the horrors of war all too well picks up a two-by-four and teaches them how very effective violence can be when it’s applied in a firm, pre-emptive manner.” [2/13/03]
Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit: “Civilized societies have found it harder, though, to beat the barbarians without killing all, or nearly all, of them. Were it really to become all-out war of the sort that Osama [bin Laden] and his ilk want, the likely result would be genocide — unavoidable, and provoked, perhaps, but genocide nonetheless, akin to what Rome did to Carthage, or to what Americans did to American Indians. That’s what happens when two societies can’t live together, and the weaker one won’t stop fighting — especially when the weaker one targets the civilians and children of the stronger. This is why I think it’s important to pursue a vigorous military strategy now. Because if we don’t, the military strategy we’ll have to follow in five or ten years will be light-years beyond ‘vigorous.’ ” [11/19/02] ( Why Glenn thinks that the Romans were fine and civilized, while Carthage was nothing but barbarians displays a stunning ignorance of history)
If its Monday we’re out to save Arab Muslims from tyranny, if it is Tuesday Glenn thinks it is time for genocide. You would think genocide would be a fairly time consuming business, hardly leaving time left for anything else. Except for hunting down the children of newspaper editors,
Denny K of The Flying Monkey-Right Blog in reaction to the Rumsfeld-Cheney photos: “Let’s start with the following New York Times reporters and editors: Arthur ‘Pinch’ Sulzberger Jr., Bill Keller, Eric Lichtblau, and James Risen. Do you have an idea where they live? Go hunt them down and do America a favor. Get their photo, street address, where their kids go to school, anything you can dig up, and send it to the link above. This is your chance to be famous — grab for the golden ring.” [7/02/06]
One of the most cartoonish characters on the right is male version of Peggy Noonan, Hugh Hewitt who specializes in unsupported assertions and who’s facts generally consist of a link to another right-wing blog who has made the same unsupported assertion with different wording. I’m still not, like you know accusing Hugh of anything, but if someone who lived within a few miles of Hugh died of a heart attack… I’m not saying that Hugh might be involved. I’m just wandering about things,
That’s three journalists and Hewitt, a partisan (actual Hewitt book title: If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat: Crushing the Democrats in Every Election and Why Your Life Depends Upon It) with an interesting approach to journalism: while director of the Richard Nixon presidential library, Hewitt reportedly said: “I don’t think we’d ever open the doors to Bob Woodward. He’s not a responsible journalist.”
Your very life depends on voting for a right-wing conservative. Hugh must be getting editorial advice from Dick Cheney, the vote for us or you’ll die crowd.
ts the perfect circle, the right advocates various degrees of eliminationism, the left satirizes them, the right squeals that the satire is real and goes too far ( which maybe some of it does), then the right ratchets up the rhetoric in response to the satire. The easy answer to all this is to teach conservatives what satire is, but that would be like trying to teach George Bush what compassion is.
The Party said that Oceania had never been in alliance with Eurasia. He, Winston Smith, knew that Oceania had been in alliance with Eurasia as short a time as four years ago. But where did that knowledge exist? Only in his own consciousness, which in any case must soon be annihilated. And if all others accepted the lie which the Party imposed -if all records told the same tale — then the lie passed into history and became truth. ‘Who controls the past,’ ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.’ And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. ‘Reality control’, they called it: in Newspeak, ‘doublethink’.
excerpt from 1984 by George Orwell