But would you tolerate the peace?

Jordan’s king warns of civil wars

Bigger picture

King Abdullah will host US President George W Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri Maliki in Amman later this week.

He said the US should look at the big picture in seeking a resolution to the problems in Iraq and bring in all of the region, including Syria and Iran.

America needs to look at it in the total picture – it’s not just one issue by itself
King Abdullah of Jordan

He said if a regional peace process did not develop soon, “there won’t be anything to talk about”.

Pressure is growing on the Bush administration to include Iran and Syria in helping curb the violence in neighbouring Iraq.

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani is heading for Tehran on Monday for talks aimed at securing Tehran’s aid in calming the sectarian violence.

Last week there was talk of a summit convened by Iran to discuss Iraq involving the presidents of Syria, Iraq and Iran, says the BBC’s Frances Harrison in Teheran.

This was an idea which caused huge interest because of US suggestions that it might be time to have direct talks with Iran and Syria on Iraq. But such talks look unlikely now, our correspondent adds.

On Sunday, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said his government would be prepared to assist if the US stops “bullying” Tehran, which rejects Washington’s allegations that it is seeking to build nuclear weapons.

Kind of a an eye catcher that you don’t get until the bottom of the article. It is odd that conservatives don’t have the slightest problem dealing with China in terms of diplomacy and a depository for the jobs of the American middle-class while at the same time thinks they will get cooties if they have direct talks with Tehran. Bush and the neocons seem to view Islam the way they view homosexuality. They think if you spend too much time around one you’ll catch it like a disease. This is a bizarre personality trait for any adult to possess, much less the president of the U.S.
The above article is from the BBC and in some ways contradicts this report from NYT, Panel to Weigh Overture by U.S. to Iran and Syria

WASHINGTON, Nov. 26 — A draft report on strategies for Iraq, which will be debated here by a bipartisan commission beginning Monday, urges an aggressive regional diplomatic initiative that includes direct talks with Iran and Syria but sets no timetables for a military withdrawal, according to officials who have seen all or parts of the document.

While the diplomatic strategy appears likely to be accepted, with some amendments, by the 10-member Iraq Study Group, members of the commission and outsiders involved in its work said they expected a potentially divisive debate about timetables for beginning an American withdrawal.

In interviews, several officials said announcing a major withdrawal was the only way to persuade the government of Iraq’s prime minister, Nuri Kamal al-Maliki, to focus on creating an effective Iraqi military force.

Several commission members, including some Democrats, are discussing proposals that call for a declaration that within a specified period of time, perhaps as short as a year, a significant number of American troops should be withdrawn, regardless of whether the Iraqi government’s forces are declared ready to defend the country.

This panel’s report is more or less a thin veil sheet to cover the neocon’s ass from blistering too badly. Bush doesn’t need a commission report to to streamline whatever talks are necessary to get the ball rolling. Let’s all remember that he is the “decider” and as such he doesn’t need a special panel report to correct course. Talks with Iran might well turn out to be an exercise in head banging frustration, but an astute political leader would also see it as a chance to embarrass Iran if rhetoric doesn’t live up to public pontifications. One would think that since conservatives just got their collective heads handed to them on a platter for playing a grifter like con on the American people for the last six years that a little light might go off and they’d get a clue. Is the BBC right that talks are off for now or is NYT right and the administration is just waiting for the green light from Bush’s dad’s old crew.

I thought it was bad enough that people were trampling over each other at retial stores in the fear that America would run out of stuff to buy, With the Price of Copper Up, the Plumbing Can Go Missing

PITTSBURGH, Nov. 26 — When Mike Roscoe first saw water running along the gangway between his two row houses, he thought he was dealing with a leaking pipe, not the impact of global economic forces.

After all, why would thieves — midnight plumbers as the police call them — tear out the floorboards, toilets, even the walls of the homes, all in search of copper tubing?

“To go through this effort? I don’t get it,” said Mr. Roscoe, 39, a truck driver and fledgling landlord who discovered the damage Monday when he arrived to do some work to help get his two attached, red-brick houses in the Allentown neighborhood ready to rent. “You could make more money getting a job at minimum wage.”

Not necessarily. In the last year, a worldwide surge in demand for copper, largely from construction booms in China and India, has pushed up its value. Though the market price has slipped, it is still more than double what it was just over a year ago.

Scrap metal dealers in Pittsburgh said they were paying about $2 a pound for No. 2 copper, which by definition has been bent or soldered, more than triple the 65 cents they paid a year ago. That kind of payout makes a copper haul like the approximately 20 pounds taken out of Mr. Roscoe’s row houses worth about eight hours of work at minimum wage ($5.15 an hour).

You’ve got the mouth of a she wolf
Inside the mask of an innocent lamb
You say your heart is all compassion
But there’s just a flat line on your cardiogram

Yet you always made a profit baby
If it was a famine or a feast

Yes, I’m the soul of indiscretion,
I was cursed with x-ray vision,
I could see right through all the lies you told,
When you smiled for the television

And you can see the coming battle
You pray the drums will never cease
And you may win this war that’s coming
But would you tolerate the peace?
from the lyrics to This War by Sting