Recently House Minority Leader John Snidely Boehner (R-Ohio) claimed that Speaker Pelosi’s assertion that she was not completely and honestly briefed on Bush and Cheney’s toture regime was less then honest. In his view the CIA was telling the truth and Pelosi was not.
“I think the problem is that the speaker has had way too many stories on this issue,” Boehner said today. “She’s posed more questions than she has provided answers…
“When you look at the number of briefings that the speaker was in, and other Democrat members of the House and Senate, it’s.. pretty clear that they were well aware of what these enhanced interrogation techniques were,” Boehner said. “They were well aware that they had been used. And it seems to me that they want to have it both ways. You can’t have it both ways.”
Its difficult to have an honest honorable debate if one side decides to insist on being dishonest and dishonorable, AP: More errors in CIA briefing list
The CIA chart states that a Senate staffer, Chris Mellon, attended a briefing on July 15, 2004. However, Mellon told The Associated Press that he left the Senate in April 2004 and did not attend the briefing.
On Wednesday, CIA spokesman George Little said the CIA has reviewed its record and agrees that Mellon was erroneously listed as having attended the 2004 briefing. […]
The CIA chart also shows former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Porter Goss attended a March 8, 2005, briefing as a member of Congress. However, Goss was at that time the director of the CIA. He took that job in November 2004.
“On the March 8, 2005, briefing, we were true to the records,” Little said. “Although Mr. Goss was CIA director at that time, the underlying records list him as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee. There’s a record of an earlier briefing that lists Rep. (Pete) Hoekstra as chairman.”
Since President Obama released Bush-era Office of Legal Counsel memos detailing the authorization of the Bush administration’s torture program, Vice President Cheney has taken to the public airwaves on numerous occasions, not only attacking Obama’s security policies but vigorously defending what he perceives (wrongly) as the efficacy of torture. “I’m convinced, absolutely convinced, that we saved thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands, of lives,” Cheney said recently on CBS.
One striking hypocrisy in the torture is good and those that authorized are saviors of national security is the Scotter Libby element of their defense. They are afraid that just as Libby would have been sent to the same kind of prison farm that Martha Stewart served time in, it would be too much for Bush, Cheney and the other members of the torture crew to handle. They can torture people, but think it is inhumane to pay the consequences for breaking the law and being responsible for recruiting more terrorists. How Guantanamo became a recruiting ground for militants
A McClatchy investigation found that instead of confining terrorists, Guantanamo often produced more of them by rounding up common criminals, conscripts, low-level foot soldiers and men with no allegiance to radical Islam — thus inspiring a deep hatred of the United States in them — and then housing them in cells next to radical Islamists.
The radicals were quick to exploit the flaws in the U.S. detention system.
Soldiers, guards or interrogators at the U.S. bases at Bagram or Kandahar in Afghanistan had abused many of the detainees, and they arrived at Guantanamo enraged at America.
Cheney, and the skirts he and other Republicans are hiding behind, claim that while there is no known facts to support the assertion, torture saved “thousands” of lives. How many lives did torture cost American families, and Iraqi families that the Right has said they saved from tyranny, I’m Still Tortured by What I Saw in Iraq
I learned in Iraq that the No. 1 reason foreign fighters flocked there to fight were the abuses carried out at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. Our policy of torture was directly and swiftly recruiting fighters for al-Qaeda in Iraq. The large majority of suicide bombings in Iraq are still carried out by these foreigners. They are also involved in most of the attacks on U.S. and coalition forces in Iraq. It’s no exaggeration to say that at least half of our losses and casualties in that country have come at the hands of foreigners who joined the fray because of our program of detainee abuse. The number of U.S. soldiers who have died because of our torture policy will never be definitively known, but it is fair to say that it is close to the number of lives lost on Sept. 11, 2001. How anyone can say that torture keeps Americans safe is beyond me — unless you don’t count American soldiers as Americans.