Blue City Skyline with Clouds wallpaper, Claymation Deathmatch – Kristol versus Beck

Blue City Skyline with Clouds wallpaper

Watching Bill Kristol and Glenn Beck fight is like watching two guys swat each other with kidskin gloves accompanied by shouts of your mamma. Let’s re-roll the tape for Kristol’s criticism of Beck on Egypt- Stand for Freedom,

But hysteria is not a sign of health. When Glenn Beck rants about the caliphate taking over the Middle East from Morocco to the Philippines, and lists (invents?) the connections between caliphate-promoters and the American left, he brings to mind no one so much as Robert Welch and the John Birch Society. He’s marginalizing himself, just as his predecessors did back in the early 1960s.

Nor is it a sign of health when other American conservatives are so fearful of a popular awakening that they side with the dictator against the democrats. Rather, it’s a sign of fearfulness unworthy of Americans, of short-sightedness uncharacteristic of conservatives, of excuse-making for thuggery unworthy of the American conservative tradition.

Glenn Beck, whose lace jockeys ride up at the mere hint that someone somewhere disagrees with him and whose feelings are hurt even more easily than Sarah Palin and has never been one to argue in good faith, replies,

“I don’t even know if you understand what conservatives are anymore, Billy,” Beck said in his extended, sarcastic attack on Kristol. “People like Bill Kristol, I don’t think they stand for anything anymore. All they stand for is power. They’ll do anything to keep their little fiefdom together, and they’ll do anything to keep the Republican power entrenched.”

[  ]…”I think he’s still trying to get Bob Dole elected, i’m not really sure,” said Beck.

Have you done a minute of research Bill?” Beck asked later, promising to expose the ties between the left and Islamic radicals during this week’s television show and advising Kristol, “Just watch the show in the next week.”

Steve Benen at The Washington Monthly sees all this beyatch slapping as a big deal, but maybe in the wrong way.

I especially liked it when Beck asked rhetorically on the air, “Have you done a minute of research, Bill?” It’s amusing to think Beck believes additional scholarly work would prove there’s a global conspiracy to “divvy up” the world between communists and “radical Islamists.” If only Kristol would do more “research,” he’d see how right Beck’s delusions are.

We’ll see if Kristol feels compelled to respond to this, though I rather doubt he’ll bother. The larger point to keep in mind, though, is that the fissures within the right that generally go unnoticed are starting to widen.

Steve is usually a great analysis of political events, but it might be overestimating riffs on the right. Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA), Sarah Palin, former RNC head Micheal Steele, Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-GA) and South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford all criticized the Duke of Rethugicanism Rush Limbaugh, and all very quickly walked back their statements. The Right generally stays on script and when they go off it is like a stage actor trying to talk past the gaffe. And Whiskey Fire brings up an obvious problem. Bill Kristol slamming someone on his own team for crazy conspiracy theories, Sad Freaks of the Nation

Glenn Beck doesn’t ordinarlily scrawl on his chalkboard anything of any significant order of magnitude nuttier than what William Kristol typically scribbles in the absurd Weekly Standard, and for Kristol to be simpering about the “health” of conservatism as an “intellectual movement” is like one zombie prissily cautioning another to politely request “cerveaux” instead of vulgarly demanding braaaaiiinnnssss.

Betting on which wing-nut wins this pissing contest is time you’ll never get back, but I’ll pick Kristol. He is the establishment and is so for a reason, the establishment wins on setting the agenda. And speaking of wild ass theories about the way the world works, just last month Kristol joined the wacky Right’s gold standard club,

And it’s worth further asking–as more and more people are beginning to ask–whether a modernized international gold standard, which anchors currencies to a standard outside government manipulation, wouldn’t better serve the interests of free and limited government both at home and abroad. After all, it’s the dollar’s status as a reserve currency that has allowed the U.S. government to amass huge debts, debts which the legislatively imposed debt ceiling has been unsuccessful in limiting. Fiat currency seems to be related to bloated and unlimited government, and to speculative bubbles, and to international instability. Do we just to have to live with this, or simply hope for better Fed chairmen?

Kristol hedges his bets by using the term “modernized international gold standard”. I don’t want to verve off into deep economics and the gold standard, so to keep it simple: Kristol and the Right’s favorite past time of the last ten years has been to lie us into wars and propose new ones. How did we finance those wars? By printing money and selling our debt to China. Kristol’s gold standard, and the rest of the Right’s for that matter, would mean Bill is a kind of backdoor isolationist or Quaker peace activist who would prohibit further foreign escapades and nation building by not having the funds to pay for them. Which brings us back to Kristol and Beck and who is the biggest conspiracy nut and who is doing their “research”. If these two did not have so much money and power they’d just be two inmates at the asylum arguing over who is the real messiah. Icing on the conspiracy nut cake, PERRspectives reminds everyone that Mitt Romney was on the caliphate train in 2009, Beck Echoes Romney on Threat of Islamic Caliphate. Reasonable people can agree there are radicals in the world, high on some kind of fundamentalism that would like to see the U.S. and Europe burn to the ground. Many on the Right continue to blow these relatively few radicals into giant all powerful bogeymen.

CCR Announces Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States

“Waterboarding is torture, and Bush has admitted, without any sign of remorse, that he approved its use,” said Katherine Gallagher, Senior Staff Attorney at CCR and Vice President of the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH). “The reach of the Convention Against Torture is wide – this case is prepared and will be waiting for him wherever he travels next. Torturers – even if they are former presidents of the United States – must be held to account and prosecuted. Impunity for Bush must end.”

While the U.S. has thus far failed to comply with its obligations under the Convention Against Torture to prosecute and punish those who commit torture, all other signatories, too, are obligated to prosecute or extradite for prosecution anyone present in their territory they have a reasonable basis for believing has committed torture. If the evidence warrants, as the Bush Torture Indictment contends it does, and the U.S. fails to request the extradition of Bush and others to face charges of torture there, CAT signatories must, under law, prosecute them for torture.

Where can we turn to for the sharpest insight into this conundrum? Right-Wing News of course, Unhinged CCR Announces Bush Indictment For Torture

Interesting that the Center For Constitutional Rights, a far left pro-communist and open borders lobby group, has never announced an indictment against people like Osama Bin Laden, Ayman Al-Zawahiri, or any of the other Islamic terrorists on the FBI’s top 10 list. Of course, like so many on the far left, they quietly support the ideals of Islamic terrorists, and Islamists in general, and tend to avoid discussion of things like al Qaeda having an actual torture manual, beheadings, hanging gays and women who have been raped, suicide bombings, and all the other things the hardcores do. No, instead they announce an indictment of President Bush…

The jihadist radicals RRN mentions are terrorists and criminals. By definition they do not adhere to any moral code or international laws. They are also non-state actors. Something the Right should understand after the last ten years. Unlike Bush they are not heads of state. Unlike Bush they did not swear an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution – part of which are the treaties to which the U.S. is a signatory (we all know by now the Right also has a feeble concept of the U.S. Constitution) such as the Convention Against Torture, the War Crimes Act, and the U.S. anti-torture statute. RRN ends their “unhinged” rant by citing ye old ticking time bomb canard. One assumes they’re also guarding their children from whooping cough by burying a potato in the backyard.

Interesting back story, U.S. Has Secret Tools to Force Internet on Dictators